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06 March 2009

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Muhammad Ali

Dear Richard,

It’s good to see that finally both standard setters are moving towards converging revenue related standard. The proposed model (i.e. component recognition approach) is gaining recognition among accountant fraternity. I wonder by focusing on contract based model we would rather negate the substance of the transaction. There are certain issues a part from which highlighted by you and your colleagues in recent IFRS news publication, which I guess would be addressed once Board start crystallizing ED on Revenue standard, including when it will be deemed that the seller has discharged all its obligation and what if some ancillary service obligation has to be fulfilled. Should seller wait to complete all of its obligation before recognition of revenue and what if that obligation constitute a minor portion of overall arrangement with customer. What if some performance obligation still needs to be consummated before customer considers as fulfillment of the contract arrangement.
If we go for component accounting for revenue recognition, we have to see enforceability on fulfillment of part of obligation where I guess it seldom to enforce the payment when the contract is half way, rather all payment consideration were contingent on fulfillment of obligation in its entirety.
I would be interested if you provide further insight of the upcoming amendment and the difficulty that would be encountered in practical application of the standard. I would rather consider that the Standard Setters should conduct a walkthrough of the principle so that the practical application would better be understand before moving forward.
Thanks

Richard Keys

Many thanks for your posting. We will continue to publish guidance on the revenue recognition requirements as they develop, in addition to the IFRS news article and supplement in the March edition [LINK1]. Our recently relaunched webpages on IFRS issues [LINK2] highlight the guidance we release and any other news updates on the topic.

Rod Mattheyse

How should one account revenue in an instance where a service provider acts as an agent and pools funds, takes out a service fee, and redistributes the funds to others based on the outcome/prediction of a sporting event.

I am specifically referring to a totalisator operation or betting exchange.

I would assume only the take out or commission should be regarded as revenue?

In the same light if a percentage of the take out/commission was as an agent to a government department and paid over as a tax does one recognise this as a revenue and a cost?

Regards

Rod

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